{"id":2047,"date":"2022-05-13T12:45:12","date_gmt":"2022-05-13T04:45:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/trennamahney.com\/?p=2047"},"modified":"2022-05-24T11:31:09","modified_gmt":"2022-05-24T03:31:09","slug":"the-kitchen-tapes-no-13","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/the-kitchen-tapes-no-13\/","title":{"rendered":"The Kitchen Tapes No. 13"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Recorded 7 May 2018<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-subtle-background-background-color has-text-color has-background\"><em>[ GM: Note before we start.&nbsp; In these recordings of Trenna\u2019s early years I can hear that she almost puts herself into a trance like state, as if she was channeling a very young, and a very different Trenna.&nbsp; She gave this whole account speaking quite fast and with almost no breaks.]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-accent-color has-subtle-background-background-color has-text-color has-background\"><em>[GM: In this recording, perhaps more than others Trenna has retold stories she has already covered (although there is also new material). Trenna and I often spoke of her experiences so she knows she is retelling a story, but she may not be aware whether we had previously recorded that particular story.]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\"><strong>GM:<\/strong>&nbsp; Today is Monday the 7th of May 2018. We\u2019re with Trenna Mahney. Tren, tell us of any more memories&nbsp;you&#8217;ve got of your time at Mofflyn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>THM:<\/strong>&nbsp; Well, I guess these are all just little snapshots of things I recall.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Chicken Pox, and the Fire Brigade Not to the Rescue<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I do recall I got chicken pox when I was there.&nbsp; I was a really little toddler so it must have been not long after I got there when I was still at home [I hadn\u2019t started kindy].  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They were very itchy, and I have scars from where I used to scratch them, even today in my 60s.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There was one day when I was at home, and I didn&#8217;t like it because everybody was at kindergarten, so the house was very quiet, and I was just at home by myself at the cottage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I can remember I had little mittens made for me.&nbsp; They were tied together.&nbsp; Now, I recall that they were tired behind my back, but, my sister Nancy reckons that wasn&#8217;t the case.&nbsp; She said they were tied together, but they were at the front.&nbsp; And that they were little ribbons that we&#8217;re tied together so that I couldn&#8217;t scratch my face.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, I don&#8217;t know, I reckon that if they were in front of me I would have been able to do it.&nbsp; Maybe that&#8217;s why I have got marks over the top of my eyebrows.&nbsp; Scars, where I picked at my scabs.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember the fire brigade came and the men were there, and they were talking to me, and they were really nice, and I kept on asking them to please untie my hands because they [the staff at the Home] had tied me up, and it wasn&#8217;t very nice.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know they didn&#8217;t think it was very nice either.&nbsp; They had come to take &#8230; we had these big cylinders that used to be on the wall and I think they&#8217;re coming to take them away or maybe we didn\u2019t have any and they put new ones there. <em>[GM: Presumably fire extinguishers.]<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do remember the chicken pox and how itchy they were, and how I didn&#8217;t like having them.  And how I didn&#8217;t think they were very nice for not undoing my hands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Friends at Mofflyn<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I do also remember that there were girls that I befriended. &nbsp; I know one friend was Vanessa.&nbsp; Later I learnt that she was the daughter of Nancy, who was the cook, or one of the cooks in the kitchen.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t recall knowing that then.&nbsp; I just knew Vanessa was my friend, and so was Susie Ireland, but Susie Ireland had hearing problems.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think I was a bit jealous of her because I had bad eyesight, but we all had to be extra nice to Susie because she couldn&#8217;t hear.&nbsp; But I didn&#8217;t think they had to be nice to me because I couldn&#8217;t see.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I wasn&#8217;t very nice to poor Susie. &nbsp; Down by what used to be tennis courts there was still a cyclone fenced off concrete area.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The concrete was pretty much in decay, or bitumen, it was light-coloured stuff that was all cracked, and stuff like that, so I don&#8217;t think I ever saw anybody playing on it.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By the sides there were lemon trees and various fruits, including tomatoes.&nbsp; The tomatoes had grown really tall.&nbsp; I probably thought it was just a tomato tree, but now I know that tomatoes wouldn&#8217;t be that tall a \u201ctree\u201d. &nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"580\" height=\"393\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/trennamahney.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1961-Mofflyn-kids-at-play-.jpg?resize=580%2C393&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Mofflyn kids at play 1961\" class=\"wp-image-2061\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1961-Mofflyn-kids-at-play-.jpg?w=932&amp;ssl=1 932w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1961-Mofflyn-kids-at-play-.jpg?resize=300%2C203&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><figcaption>Mofflyn kids at play 1961.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The tomatoes had all gone rotten, and I used to convince the other kids to throw the tomatoes at Susie. When she wouldn&#8217;t answer us when we called out to her and she didn\u2019t turn around we would throw the tomato to get her attention. I was very mean like that.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know that we used to love playing games around what we called the \u201cIndian tent\u201d, but it was actually the metal cover over the well. &nbsp; We were told not to climb on it, but of course we did.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We used to play Cowboys and Indians around it. &nbsp; I remember being caught.&nbsp; And if we got caught, and we&#8217;d done something naughty we had to line up to get the strap.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For some reason or other I&#8217;d have to go and stand at the back.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know if it was because I couldn&#8217;t see, but I just went and stood at the back, and we would all get the strap. &nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The other kids would cry and run off, and I would get it, and I used to think that they were pretty weak because it wasn\u2019t even very hard. &nbsp; In later years I&#8217;ve speculated, I don&#8217;t know if this is the truth of it, but in later years I\u2019ve realised how many of those kids were Aboriginal kids [and were treated more harshly]. <em> [GM: I understand from Nancy that her belief is that Trenna would have got off lightly because the Home was grateful to their father for all the volunteer work he did there.]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes we would get a man who would bring his little train set, which used to be kept at another home that was near us, Castledare.&nbsp; He would bring it to Mofflyn Homes when we would have a special day.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know, but there were more than just us people there.&nbsp; There were other people who came.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The train set would be set up in the area where the tennis courts used to be. We could sit on the train.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One person could sit in each little carriage, and we would ride around on that, and that was good fun.&nbsp; I know the boys in particular liked that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do know that opposite where my cottage was, I didn&#8217;t know it was my cottage, it was just a cottage, but my cottage was apparently called Wesley, but I didn&#8217;t know then that the cottages had names. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There were four of them, my sisters and brother would know their names.&nbsp; [<em>GM: I later asked Nancy, who said they were called Wesley, Meckering, Dowerin and Guild]. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">The Colourful Mums&nbsp; <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I just knew that in charge of the cottages there was a Mum White and a Mum Black and they were the <em>mums<\/em> in our house at various points in time. I don&#8217;t know which was which.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><strong><em>I didn&#8217;t like her!<\/em><\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>One was meant to be really nice, and one was meant to be too strict.&nbsp; I thought there was a Mum Brown who was in the cottage where Colin was, but my sisters tell me there wasn&#8217;t a Mum Brown.&nbsp; There was a Mum Cutts, and she was an old bag.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She was in the cottage across the way from us. &nbsp; There was a little wall there, with a garden on it.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On our cottage, out the front of our cottage, or at the side of our cottage,&nbsp; there was a little wall, and I loved playing there, because, when later I was given a walkie talkie doll, which was very expensive and very flash.&nbsp; I think it was given to me by a Legartee from Craig House. I used to walk her, and she would talk.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I could walk her along the wall, but it was the wall across the way, at Mum Cutts\u2019 cottage where there was a garden next to it.&nbsp; She used to tell us to get off the wall or she would give us the belt.&nbsp; I didn&#8217;t like her!&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Eating Snails, and Other Amusements<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I do remember when I was very young and I was playing with one of the boys, which may have been Graham &#8211; because according to my sister&#8217;s Graham was my boyfriend &#8211;&nbsp; anyway, I do remember that there were lots of snails.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He said that the French people ate snails, and he dared me to eat a snail. And I did.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t remember if I took the shell off, or whether I just ate it.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Apparently I used to put anything from the ground in my mouth when I was a little kid, and I used to eat lots of sand and who knows what else from the ground.&nbsp; Maybe my body was lacking something?&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know that at some point there were movies, maybe every week, they were shown, I think it was maybe at Mum Cutts\u2019 cottage.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Because initially we didn&#8217;t have TV, eventually we did get a TV I think &#8211; but I don&#8217;t really remember watching TV other than football so maybe we didn&#8217;t get TV &#8211; maybe it was just the football on the radio.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyway, we used to go to see the movies, or at least I went sometimes, mainly the older kids went and they probably were all things about missionary work in Papua New Guinea and all of that sort of thing.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes I think there might have been real movies, but I don&#8217;t know. &nbsp; I know that my sisters did look forward to that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There were also bookcases where we could get books from, to read, but that was all before my time because I was not old enough to read.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have a memory, but I&#8217;ve been assured it&#8217;s not <em>my <\/em>memory, it&#8217;s my sister&#8217;s memory of getting in trouble because my job was to sweep the little corridor in the cottage, which was only very small.&nbsp; It was outside the two bedrooms that we slept in, not in the main part of the house.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I got into trouble and I got hit across the backside by, I guess it was Mum Black, because I think Mum White was the good mum.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"580\" height=\"377\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/trennamahney.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/D24D2963-A2C9-4994-AF04-CF4922ECA940-1024x665.jpeg?resize=580%2C377&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Trenna's Sisters with Mum White\" class=\"wp-image-1985\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/D24D2963-A2C9-4994-AF04-CF4922ECA940.jpeg?resize=1024%2C665&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/D24D2963-A2C9-4994-AF04-CF4922ECA940.jpeg?resize=300%2C195&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/D24D2963-A2C9-4994-AF04-CF4922ECA940.jpeg?w=1185&amp;ssl=1 1185w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><figcaption>Trenna&#8217;s Sisters with Mum White. 15 April 1990.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyway, I got hit across the backside for not sweeping up all the dirt properly.&nbsp; But I couldn&#8217;t see, so I didn&#8217;t think that was fair.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But Nancy says \u201cno\u201d that wasn&#8217;t me, it was Barb who got in trouble for not being able to do the sweeping properly, and Nancy stood up for Barb.&nbsp; So that might be a memory I&#8217;ve just taken from them.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know that they used to do Christian Endeavour classes once a week, in the evening, at our cottage and they would stay up later.&nbsp; I had to go to bed.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But I always wanted to know what they would do, and I would sneak down the passageway and try and look through the door to see what they did, because I thought they might be doing something good, and I didn&#8217;t want to miss out.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then one day, the mum in charge of the cottage caught me and she said if I wanted to know what was going on so much I could go and stay, stand in the corner and put my face to the wall, and repeat prayers that I knew, and that she would give me to do.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I found it very boring, and I think that stopped me from doing it again.&nbsp; But I didn&#8217;t think it was fair that I couldn&#8217;t go.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t really remember the format of meals, but I believe they were in the cottages and the bigger girls used to bring them down. Nancy, not my sister, but the cook, evidently used to feel sorry for me because I was very skinny and she would quite often sneak me biscuits from the biscuit barrel.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That was at \u201cthe main\u201d and <em>the main<\/em> was the main building.&nbsp; That&#8217;s where everything important happened.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"580\" height=\"402\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/trennamahney.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/1960-Mofflyn-Home-The-Main-best.jpg?resize=580%2C402&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"The Main Building at Mofflyn Homes\" class=\"wp-image-1032\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/1960-Mofflyn-Home-The-Main-best.jpg?w=938&amp;ssl=1 938w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/1960-Mofflyn-Home-The-Main-best.jpg?resize=300%2C208&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/1960-Mofflyn-Home-The-Main-best.jpg?resize=768%2C532&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><figcaption>Mofflyn Home &#8211; The Main 1960.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>It was where the matron had her office.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t remember that at all.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t even really remember what the matron was like, but I do remember the kitchen.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">The Extended Family Contracts<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I also know that that&#8217;s where the kindergarten was.&nbsp; Because I went to Mofflyn Homes six months after mum died &#8211; so mum died in October 1959 &#8211; I stayed with Auntie Hilda and Shirley and Uncle Bert and Kaye and Nana at their house, which I really loved because I could do lots of things.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The others went somewhere else. I don&#8217;t know, but I think Barb and Colin went to stay with Auntie Ali [Alice] until it was the Christmas holidays.&nbsp; Then, when the Christmas holidays came I think the others were sent to stay with people who they didn&#8217;t know.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dad went to meet these people and he said they were nice families, and that they were having a good time. I didn&#8217;t go.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I stayed with Auntie Hilda, but for some of that time Nancy stayed with Auntie Hilda too.&nbsp; I think that was just after Mum died, but then again I don&#8217;t remember her being there, and I don&#8217;t know if she remembers being there.&nbsp; <em>[GM: I later asked Trenna\u2019s sister, Nancy.&nbsp; Nancy stayed at Hilda\u2019s briefly after the death of their mother, but didn\u2019t stay there on a regular basis after that.] &nbsp;<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both Kaye and Shirley remember that someone was there and it was either Barb or Nancy.<em>&nbsp; [GM: This information comes from a meeting Trenna had with both of her cousins Shirley and Kaye, earlier in 2018 after not having seen them for approximately 50 years.  Trenna and I initiated the meetings.]<\/em>&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><em><strong>So I was really proud of my sister Barb for saving me because otherwise I would have dropped dead then!&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>They do think it was Nancy, because I know that Barb didn&#8217;t like it at Auntie Ali&#8217;s&nbsp;because she had to go to the school that our cousin Suzanne went to, and maybe our cousin Raymond went there too, and they were Catholic.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She didn&#8217;t like the Catholic school.&nbsp; It was awful, and very strict, and did a lot of church stuff which she didn&#8217;t like.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So apart from getting up to the naughty things like going over to play in the yellow sand pits next door, I think the highlight of the week for us was, I guess we got some sort of pocket money.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if Daddy would give it to us or where it came from, or if it was just the older kids who got it, but once a week we would cut across the bush near the driveway to take the shortcut. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That&#8217;s the way we also went to school.&nbsp; There was a shop.&nbsp; The Kent Street shop. &nbsp; And we would get some lollies and that would be the highlight of the week.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would always get my favourite cough drop lolly, which was a big pinky coloured lolly that looked like a pill that you could suck on and it would last for ages.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember once that my sister Barb saved me.&nbsp; I was about to put my foot down on the pathway and she pulled me back,&nbsp; and she said \u201ccareful, there&#8217;s a goanna\u201d and I was about to put my foot on a <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tiliqua_rugosa\">bobtail goanna<\/a>.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><em><strong>I was terrified.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>They said if I put my foot on it, that it would grip my foot with it\u2019s teeth and it wouldn&#8217;t let go, and it might take my foot off.&nbsp; So I was really proud of my sister Barb for saving me because otherwise I would have dropped dead then!&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think I&#8217;ve said everything about it that I can remember about school.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t really remember Colin going and leaving because I really don&#8217;t remember seeing much of Colin when I was at Mofflyn Homes.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know I went there about six months after Mum died, so that would have been April or something like that, in 1960. &nbsp; I know that Dad lived until 1963, and that sometimes he would take us out for the weekend.&nbsp; <em>[GM: Colin has made a comment on this topic at the end of  <a href=\"https:\/\/trennamahney.com\/11-trennas-favourite-number\/\">&#8220;11 &#8211; Trenna&#8217;s Favourite Number&#8221;, here.<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All that is blurred for me, because I think I just blurred much of my memory of life with Dad.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t remember when I went home with him or with someone else, but I think during that time I might have also stayed the night sometimes at Aunty Ali&#8217;s and sometimes at Auntie Hilda&#8217;s because there are things that I remember, that I probably wouldn&#8217;t remember if I was only 3.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like that Raymond didn&#8217;t like me staying in his bed and he would put drawing pins in the bed.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember the time that Uncle Bert scared me.&nbsp; He had chooks down the back of the house and he chopped off the head of a chook, and then let it go so that it ran around with its head off.&nbsp; I was terrified.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><em><strong>Raymond didn&#8217;t like me staying in his bed and he would put drawing pins in the bed<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Cousin Shirley remembers that he loved doing that and that at the time she loved him doing that, and she thought it was really good fun, and funny.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also remember dressing up in Auntie Hilda&#8217;s light blue wedgie shoes that had gold etching on them, and I would walk around like a princess, and I wanted shoes like that when I grew up.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I loved their doll&#8217;s house that they had, and their little farm I would play with.&nbsp; There were games that I think I would have to have been a bit older than three to understand, so I must have stayed there on occasional days with them.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do remember that Auntie Hilda taught me to tell the time, and I remember that they had a television.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I would run out with excitement to say \u201cit\u2019s Taffy time, it\u2019s Taffy time!\u201d, because I would watch, I guess, <em>Children&#8217;s Channel 7<\/em>. <em>[GM: Taffy was a lion character &#8211; a man in a lion costume.&nbsp; Channel 7 was the only commercial TV station in Perth at the time.&nbsp; BTW, I too loved Taffy!]<\/em>&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t think I know the names of the shows I watched, except, I loved <em>The Mickey Mouse Club.<\/em>&nbsp; When I was at Auntie Ali&#8217;s they bought me some Mickey Mouse ears.&nbsp; I used to watch <em>The Mickey Mouse Club<\/em> show and I would sing the song, and I used to love that.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I also loved the gong on top of their telly. &nbsp; I was allowed to strike the gong for meals.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember lying down on the carpet to watch telly, and they would say \u201cyou&#8217;re tired it&#8217;s time for bed\u201d, and I would say \u201cno I&#8217;m not\u201d but then a minute or two later I would be asleep. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I remember Auntie Ali used to make the best savoury mince on toast for breakfast, and I loved it.&nbsp; That&#8217;s the only meal I ever remember having at their house.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t really remember much about playing at Auntie Ali&#8217;s house.&nbsp; They used to do what now you would call topiary, but I didn&#8217;t understand how their trees could grow in a round shape.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The man next door had a sheep, and the sheep used to \u201cdo the gardening\u201d, and I didn&#8217;t know what they meant, and they thought that was very funny.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know there was a house across the road, and we would go over and play at that house. 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I went and saw her home, which was nearby.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I think the first person I met from Craig House was Mr Harkness, he was called something like a Legatee.&nbsp; He was the Legatee of Barb, Nance and Colin who had all been gone from Mofflyn for a long time.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They wouldn&#8217;t let me go there because I was too young.&nbsp; He came and visited me and I think I must have got the walkie talkie doll from him, but I don&#8217;t know for sure.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But, I do know that he gave me a Fred Flintstone hanky because I told him <em>The Flintstones<\/em> was my favourite TV show, and I loved having that Fred Flintstone hanky so that I could pin it on my uniform when I went to school.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if I had to do that after grade one because I only remember grade one. &nbsp; I also remember that I got some Chinese or Japanese silk pyjamas that were real silk.&nbsp;<em>[See a photo <a href=\"https:\/\/trennamahney.com\/the-first-recording\/#chinesepjphoto\">here.<\/a>] <\/em>  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They were white on the bottom and on the top they had what was called a Chinese collar .&nbsp; 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I don&#8217;t know whether she came to see me, or whether anybody else came to see me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So I went to Craig House in July 1965. I don&#8217;t remember leaving the home [Mofflyn] but I know I don&#8217;t remember bringing any of my toys with me either, because I didn&#8217;t have toys.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know I had a toy piano that Daddy had given me, and also Barb had been given one, but there only seemed to be one piano at Craig House.&nbsp; I did have my doll that Daddy had won me at a fair, or bought at a fair, when he took me out one day, that you could put on the bed and it was really beautiful.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I had that at Craig House.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s really all I remember about Mofflyn Homes, but I&#8217;m sure things will come back from time to time.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In later years we did visit Mofflyn Homes as adults, and I remember seeing the bell that used to be rung for dinner, which I used to think was huge, but was only as tall as I was. And that&#8217;s about it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"580\" height=\"447\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/trennamahney.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/8A23A8B4-ABD0-467F-9F8B-1FE70CAB0F95.jpeg?resize=580%2C447&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Trenna standing near a bell\" class=\"wp-image-2057\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/8A23A8B4-ABD0-467F-9F8B-1FE70CAB0F95.jpeg?w=811&amp;ssl=1 811w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/8A23A8B4-ABD0-467F-9F8B-1FE70CAB0F95.jpeg?resize=300%2C231&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><figcaption>1978 Mofflyn Home me &amp; Big Bell &#8211; Suffer the little children (Trenna&#8217;s caption)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Sunday School<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>GM:<\/strong>&nbsp; Tren, just before we do leave Mofflyn, can you tell me about the Sunday School and going into the city?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>THM:<\/strong> Well, there used to be a bus, someone would drive a bus, and we had to go to church or Sunday School every week. &nbsp; If you were old enough, and I don&#8217;t know how old that was, I don&#8217;t think you had to go to Sunday School, I think you went to Church. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The church was the Wesley Church in the middle of the city, on the corner of Hay Street and William Street.&nbsp; It&#8217;s still there today.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"580\" height=\"464\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/trennamahney.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1947-8-16th-Saturday-Mum-Dad-Wed-Wesley-Church-Perth.jpg?resize=580%2C464&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"recently Married couple\" class=\"wp-image-2059\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1947-8-16th-Saturday-Mum-Dad-Wed-Wesley-Church-Perth.jpg?w=775&amp;ssl=1 775w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.trennamahney.com\/testing\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/1947-8-16th-Saturday-Mum-Dad-Wed-Wesley-Church-Perth.jpg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 580px) 100vw, 580px\" \/><figcaption>Trenna&#8217;s Mum and Dad were married in the same Wesley Church on 16 August 1947.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><em><strong>I would describe it as ornate balustrading all over the place, and staircases.&nbsp; Large grand staircases<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The Methodists owned property across the road and that\u2019s where the smaller children went.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know if we went to the church first, and had to listen to all of that, but I think we just went straight to the Sunday School.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>All I remember about that is that there were lots of big rooms, and they were all dark, very little windows, and all made of wood.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now I would describe it as ornate balustrading all over the place, and staircases.&nbsp; Large grand staircases.&nbsp; We could just run wild in there until we got somewhere. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I suppose we had a Sunday School class. I don&#8217;t really remember that.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I do remember that there was a stage, and we would sing on the stage.&nbsp; I did have a terrible voice, and I think that&#8217;s why I was at the back, because I couldn&#8217;t sing.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, I think I thought, to pay them back because they said I couldn&#8217;t sing very well, I used to encourage the other kids who supposedly couldn&#8217;t sing very well just sing like, you know, the people in church.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So that makes me think I might have gone to the church service, because I heard the old ladies sing.&nbsp; And the old ladies sang funny, and I used to sing like them, so I would sing the hymns like <em>[GM: Trenna proceeds to make a high pitched, unpleasant sounding noise.] <\/em>and I would sing like that and all the kids would laugh, and we would get into trouble.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if we got caught in the end but anyway, that&#8217;s what we would do.&nbsp; Then the bus would be there waiting for us and we would go home.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"has-accent-color has-text-color wp-block-heading\">Three Years of Kindergarten<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The one thing I don&#8217;t think I said about kindergarten is that because I went to Mofflyn so young there was nothing to do with me during the day, so I went to kindergarten from soon after I arrived until the day I went to grade one in primary school.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignright has-text-align-right has-accent-color has-text-color\"><blockquote><p><em><strong>I didn&#8217;t want to do the stupid drawings and cut outs<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>So I think I had 3 years of kindergarten.&nbsp; Maybe that&#8217;s why, in the end, I got naughty because I knew all the tricks.&nbsp; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I knew what was going to happen and it all got a bit boring. 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